When the (im)modest becomes mainstream
November 12th, 2008I wonder whether enough time has passed to allow the ideas dreamed up on Talisman9 to percolate through to the community and to become mainstream. My rough guess is that the process takes 20 years or so. Talisman began in late 1994, so I have a feeling it may be premature to study the full force of its effects on the community.
The ideas discussed on Talisman are many and various, and, let’s face it, much of what’s expressed there has the lasting power of a randy mayfly. It’s a big job to summarise the material in order to define the key, lasting ideas. Also, there’s a lot of scope for disagreement over whether such filtering could be done fairly.
I suggest going back 20 years and examining something more manageable, like A Modest Proposal. It should be relatively simple to analyse which of the proposals have since been adopted by the US community. Perhaps someone has already done that? I do know that the proposals look increasingly modest as time passes.
I’m not an academic, and certainly not a historian or sociologist, but I do wonder what conclusions could be drawn from such an exercise. Just because something is later adopted doesn’t mean it was timely when it was first suggested. I fully expect to see a few of the ideas currently talked about on Talisman becoming mainstream in around 2028. I think that’s just the nature of progress. Places like Talisman are where the early adopters congregate. Of course the new ideas will appear there first! But I accept that this concept may not seem as obvious to others as it does to me.






